The engine and transmission are the same, so the difference is in the design and the tech and Valtra is a bit more on the premium side so if you fancy that, go for the QI've been thinking about a 2023 Valtra Q Series and I stumbled upon info that it's apparently based on a Massey Ferguson 8s. Has anyone run one of these? Curious if it really feels different or if it's basically just a rebadged MF.